Originele verklaringen Ayaan

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[Geplaatst door: Lisette D. Muntslag]

Hirsi Ali is a fraud and opportunist. Like her man-hating feminist co-horts she is exploiting the suffering of women for her own personal political gain. As a Dutch citizen by birth I was arbitrarily deprived of my nationality and denied the right to regain it. But nobody in the Netherlands gave a darn. She lied to become a Dutch citizen and is being rewarded with fame and fortune, because she is satisfying the perverted pleasures of the powers that be. If anything she exposed the hypocricy of the mighty superior secular west.

Cry freedom, freedom for all not just for some....

[Geplaatst door: joop]

....But nobody in the Netherlands gave a dam....
Typische vorm van "Pidgin engels".

Het is weliswaar zo dat Nederland bekend staat als dammenbouwende natie, maar weggeven ervan komt niet voor. That's damn right !

[Geplaatst door: Ron C. de Weijze]

Lisette, don't forget that her filmmaker was ritually slaughtered (slit throat) by a reborn islamist, and a note saying the same would happen to Ayaan, was stuck with a second knife into his chest. You cannot uphold that it was opportunism bringing her international attention.

[Geplaatst door: jelle]

@Lisette D. Muntslag
So,
What's your problem?
Speaky you Hollands?
Dus jij bent geboren Nederlandse en you couldn't get it back again?
And nobody gaf 'n shit daarover?
And de duts samenleving here beleefde Ayaan anders dan you?
Was you so speciaal?
Prats your whoblem?
Kon you not de geperverteerde pleasures of de machthebbers enuf satisfacteren?
Wat you sink of secularizam?
Ies dies bèèèd?
Terrible dat Ayaan is a woman.
If iets rediculous jouw post is.
Schreeuw vrij dom, vrij dom voor all, not for only lucky joe.
Ies mooi.

[Geplaatst door: Anton]

Voor al de laatste zinnen in het dictaat van Verdonk zijn triest. Vanuit haar ministriele machtspositie (proberen) slachtoffer Ayaan een kopje kleiner te maken.
liep dat opzetje even totaal mis!!!

[Geplaatst door: Roelof_]

@ Lisette Muntslag
I found your post rather peculiar. Then I googled your name and I found many hits. Apparently you are of Surinam origin, fled from the Netherlands in 1999 to the USA and your political asylum request was still pending in 2005.
Your accuse the the Dutch government of sabotaging development in Surinam for the past 30 years etc.
http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/2005/04/05/support.shtml

What has all this to do with Hirsi Ali? Why do you hate her so much? This is so typical for the left wing multi culti shit type reactions on Ayaan's wonderful contributions to our country. How far fetched can you get?

And why do you complain about not being able to obtain the Dutch Nationality when in the above article (see hyperlink) you state that you fled from the Netherlands. What's the real story?

[Geplaatst door: CC]

@Roelof,

I was just as baffled as you were, reading mrs. Muntslag reaction on AHA's statements.
The blame should go to our "empathic" minister Verdonk, whose lust for power made her blind for normal human values as justice and support for her once-friend and political allie.

@Mrs. Muntslag,

"This is so typical for the left wing multi culti shit type reactions on Ayaan's wonderful contributions to our country. How far fetched can you get?"

Please react on this statement, cause your reaction doesn't make any sense to me at all.

[Geplaatst door: Lisette]

Too bad if it doesn't make sense to you. This case exposes the Dutch hypocricy that Pim Fortuyn so eloquently talked about before his assassination. Isn't it the left-wing multi-cultural hogwash that put Hirsi Ali in the spotlight after the Rats of the PVDA used her to label Pim Fortuyn a racist and danger to pittifull minorities/allochtonen?

This case proves my point that the Dutch government decides who gets what and who does not. The rights and liberties of those who can not defend themselves are being trampled without remorse while they bow-down and worship those that satisfy the perverted pleasures of the powers that be, and those they are afraid of. The Muslims!

The cowardice is now all out in the open for the rest of the world to see...and I'm lovin' it.

Brutus-Hyppocrates finally gets a taste of its own medicine...

[Geplaatst door: Roelof_]

@Lisette,

In your first post you state that:
"Like her man-hating feminist co-horts she is exploiting the suffering of women for her own personal political gain"

In fact, Ayaan has always been accused of being the pet of the white, right wing male.
Most leftwing feminists turned their backs on her (Anja Meulenbelt, the 'political' Lesbians that accused Ayaan of 'hijacking' their Lesbian identity).

And now you say:
"Isn't it the left-wing multi-cultural hogwash that put Hirsi Ali in the spotlight after the Rats of the PVDA used her to label Pim Fortuyn a racist and danger to pittifull minorities/allochtonen"

Wrong again. She was 'demonized' like Fortuyn. And just as Fortuyn's political agenda was claimed by most (including left-wing) parties right after his assasination, now the left wing parties (e.g. Halsema) express sympathy for her after she has left the political arena.

Ayaan was never used by the PVDA (labour) to label Fortuyn a racist. PVDA did not allow Hirsi Ali to appear in the spotlights in the first place, that's why she joinend the VVD (Liberals).

Lisette, I don't disagree that there is a lot of hypocrisy, and I'm really interested in your story. However, your arguments don't make sense.

But hey: "Too bad if it doesn't make sense to you."

I hope for you it will make sense to other people, but I doubt it.

[Geplaatst door: CC]

@Roelof,

Thanks for commenting on Lisette's statement, cause she defends two opposing views.

I hope Lisette will anser your posting with arguments.

"In fact, Ayaan has always been accused of being the pet of the white, right wing male.
Most leftwing feminists turned their backs on her (Anja Meulenbelt, the 'political' Lesbians that accused Ayaan of 'hijacking' their Lesbian identity)."

One of the most amazing and antidemocratic views in my opion of the feminist movement throughout their history.
Meulenbelt cs just sells out her own beliefs, cause she refuses to confront ALL ennemies of the feminist movement.

[Geplaatst door: Roelof_]

@CC
Thanks for your support. I agree that Meulenbelt refuses to confront all enemies of the feminist movement.

I wonder why she, a moderately radical feminist in the sixties and seventies, is against Ayaans struggle for woman's rights.

After all, she, like Ayaan, was once critized by the group for which she was politically active (women in these days generally thought of her as a hysterical/radical feminist).

I used to like her. But now I condemn her completely.

[Geplaatst door: Lisett]

@Roelof

How soon we forget! I followed this whole saga from a distance and believe you me, I don't like to lie. Pim Fortuyn came out with conviction and courage and told the truth about what was happening in the Netherlands. The Dutch & International media labeled him, extreme right-winger anti-immigrant populist, Hitler and danger to minorities. Hirsi Ali indeed on behalf of de PVDA jumped on the bandwagon to call him a racist and danger as so many others who did not understand what he was talking about. After his assassination Hirsi Ali backtracked and with the blessings of the feminist, Neelie Smit et al she joined the VVD. PVDA is the mastermind behind the multi-cultural agenda which is financing and perpetuating the oppression of minority women in the Netherlands.

Pim Fortuyn exposed that and the radical feminist didn't like it. To me today's feminism is the same as stalinism was back in the day's. It has nothing to do with women's rights. Feminism today is about power and control based on gender. And Hirsi Ali is in that category of women who only care about their ambition and get where they want over the back of others. Like she pretended to speak on behalf of the oppressed muslim women in the Netherlands. How many of them did she take with her to the United States??

Multi-Culturalism: special treatment based on skin color, gender & sexual orientation and if you share the twisted and perverted ideology is what put Hirsi Ali on the map as an employee of the PVDA. She hails the feminist movement that has been instrumental in the oppression of minority women in the Netherlands and only sees men as the enemy of women. The men targeted by her now are Muslim because the white male who represents the power structure is meeting her every need and worships her. You get my drift?

The reason why the radical-femis critize AHA is because she has been a big-time flip-flopper. She stands for nothing and blows with every wind only for her personal gain. The (radical) feminist join hands with everybody who can help them achieve their goal of de-constructing the white male power structure. After Pim Fortuyn's murder the wind took Hirsi Ali into the direction of Muslim men and she's been masterfully manipulatiing the fears of people for her own personal gain.

Years ago I didn't make sense to a lot of people....but you know what it all came to pass for the world to see.

You can say that I take issue with Hirsi Ali. 1. Because of her hypocricy when it comes to women's rights. Hirsi Ali is playing the corrupt multi-cultural game and supposedly speaks on behalf of a group/identity.....which is Muslim.
Pim Fortuyn defended the dignity of all minority women & their children but he gets killed in the name of muslims.

2. Philomena Bijlhout, Dutch citizen by birth was ridiculed and humiliated because she had supposedly lied. But Hirsi Ali who lied about the most fundamental things that make her a person to become a Dutch citizen gets a free pass??? Pim Fortuyn got killed for telling the truth!

FYI: I don't hate nobody...because hate is a very poisonoss emotion. Pim Fortuyn his assassination started my liberation and I will tell it like it is even if it doesn't make sense to people.

Do a search on AHA's interviews with media out-side the Netherlands and see the double speak that makes me question her motives even more.

[Geplaatst door: Roelof_]

Thanks Lisette for your elaborate reply.
I agree with you on some points. About AHA however, we disagree totally.

Maybe it's because you have been following the saga "from a distance", as you said. Can you provide some quotes from AHA that contain double speak that make you question her motives?

Funny that you call Smit Kroes a feminist. At least that misunderstaning is solved.
Fortuyn was not killed in the name of muslims. He was killed by an animal rights fanatic.

[Geplaatst door: Lisette]

@Roelof,

I agree to disagree with you on AHA. A while back I made mention on this site about something she said to an Australian reporter that goes like this: " if something happens to me you will really have a class of civilizations." I don't have the article at hand to provide you with the link but I do have it.

Fact: Volkert van der Graaf admitted that he killed Pim Fortuyn to protect the innocent muslims/minorities in the Netherlands. The whole media establishment, Dutch and international,labeled him anti-muslim and therefore he was a danger to society. I also know that the real reason behind the killing was to stop him from entering the corridors of power. But when you put 2 & 2 together their is a link between them.The leftists/liberals/democrats who hated
Pim Fortuyn the most had to make that claim to safe their own sorry behinds.

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Here some more quotes that make me wonder

1 Juni 2006 Article: Freedom fighter by Carlin Romano Inquirer Book critic

Hirsi Ali over Rita Verdonk " She's a very strong woman." "She's not going to move for anyone. But she's not well-versed....she has not had an intellectual upbringing...."

Note: Her reference to Rita Verdonk not having an intellectual upbringing. The same leftist/feminist dogma of the educated versus the uneducated.

Hirsi Ali outraged Dutch Muslims by accussing Muhammad of pedophillia. In the same way, Hirsi Ali explains, she'd like to challenge the beliefs of Black Muslims in America. She finds it as unfathomable that African Americans would convert to Islam as that Jews would convert to Nazism. "I think if they hear it from a black person," she says hopefully, "it will help."

Bron: www.philly.com

Note: Her saying 'a black' person. As a black woman she has the right to speak for every black person and since she is a muslim she is an expert on the issue of confronting Islam in the West. The same multi-culti groupthink hogwash. African-Americans are being enslaved by Islam and she is going to liberate them.

19 Mei ABC Online
article The World Today - Dutch MP stirs debate on Islam and Identity
Reporter: Rafeal Epstein

AYAAN HIRSI ALI: I have the rights to be controversial. I have the rights to provoke. I have the rights to offend people's religious feelings.

Bron: www.abc.net.au

4 Juni Timesonline
The Sunday Times
article You won't beat terror with tolerance
Jasper Gerard meets Ayaan Hirsi Ali

While Britain beats Holland at encouraging immigrants to be entrepreneurs, our politcally correct attitudes are worse, she says. "You pretend it's fine, you laugh about Londonistan, but you have all these terrorist who don't accept basic Britsh values. And you don't really talk about it."

She insists her new employer, the American Enterprise Institute, will let her stoke such dangerous fires, unlike timid old Europe: "I think it is why Europe is going down the drain. The United States seems more comfortable with competing ideas."

Bron: www.timesonline.co.uk

Why would she want to stoke dangerous fires?

Hirsi Ali's interview with NOVA on June 27 from the office of the American Enterprise Institute....that she only cared about her own interest and wanting to move on with her life leaving behind more chaos and confusion.

The $18.000 euro she received from Theo v Gogh for submission which led to his beheading in 2004. Hirsi Ali is selling books and giving speeches in the USA. Indeed moving on with her life while we have to remember Pim Fortuyn and Theo v Gogh who were once among us.

And last but not least Hirsi Ali on many occassions said that she was on a MISSION. In my opinion that mission in the Netherlands is completed. From the smallest country in Europe to the biggest danger to humanity and the exploiter of the worlds resources that holds the West together. Mark my words!

The government didn't have money to offer Pim Fortuyn protection but they do however use every means at their disposal to protect Hirsi Ali. Pim Fortuyn before his assassination made it loud and clear that some lives are worth more than others. Something that nobody wanted to hear.

Like she claims to have the rights to do whatever she pleases, I have the right to question her motives. Time will tell us what it's all about!

[Geplaatst door: Lisette]

@Roelof,

One more thing Hirsi was clearly an economic refugee who was instructed to come to the Netherlands because it would be the easiest country for her to get asylum based on her kakamemie story courtesy of the gender feminist. At the same time she arrived in the Netherlands in 1992 the violence against my person took a brutal turn courtesy of the same PVDA in Amsterdam that she worked for. When I challenged their multi-cultural apartheid games I was intimidated and threatened that my life would never be safe in the Netherlands if I did not accept the violence against my person and remain silent. Nora Salomon told me straight to my face that women in my position as a mother had no choice. According to her former socialist cohorts individuality and freedom of choice were only for the educated and feminist. I have a whole list of names all PVDArats regarding my case from Amsterdam to Den-Haag. And the story's not over untill it's over!

[Geplaatst door: annabeth]

@ Lisette

"if something happens to me you will really have a class of civilizations."

And? Ayaan meant that if was she murdered 'in name of Allah' that is the 'clash of Civilisations'- as in Europe no one has been murdered for critique on christanity for centuries. Free speech, the right to say what you think is part of óur civilisation - not of the Islam.

"Fact: Volkert van der Graaf admitted that he killed Pim Fortuyn to protect the innocent muslims/minorities in the Netherlands."

Not true VvdG murdered Fortuyn because Fortuyn saw no objection in farms where wild animals (name forgotten) are reared then killed for their fur. VvdG acted from his Animal Rights convictions; and you assume the rest of what you write.

"Hirsi Ali over Rita Verdonk " She's a very strong woman." "She's not going to move for anyone. But she's not well-versed....she has not had an intellectual upbringing...."
Note: Her reference to Rita Verdonk not having an intellectual upbringing. The same leftist/feminist dogma of the educated versus the uneducated."

And? What is wrong with that? I certainly think that our governments should exist out of an ELITE with at least a university background, and not some 'John with the baseballcap' who finished hight school - as we see e.g. in the USA where a mediocre man like Schwartzeneger manages to become governor - and then (with a lot of money) climbes up to become 'President'.

"Hirsi Ali outraged Dutch Muslims by accussing Muhammad of pedophillia."

It was about time as he was a pedophile That muslims don't want to hear that is another matter.

"In the same way, Hirsi Ali explains, she'd like to challenge the beliefs of Black Muslims in America. She finds it as unfathomable that African Americans would convert to Islam as that Jews would convert to Nazism. "I think if they hear it from a black person," she says hopefully, "it will help."

Hahaha! Ayaan is at it again - and rightly so since the blacks were also enslaved and exploited by the Arabs with one example the infamous Slavepits of Zanzibar, and now of course Darfur.

"Note: Her saying 'a black' person. As a black woman she has the right to speak for every black person and since she is a muslim she is an expert on the issue of confronting Islam in the West."

Ayaan is NOT 'a muslim' but an apostate of Islam; and 'as a black woman' speaks from her historic background. You are in fact saying: 'Martin Luther King thought he had the right to speak for all black people how dared he', and: 'Ali the USA Muslim boxer thought he had the right to speak for all muslims and black people'.

"AYAAN HIRSI ALI: I have the rights to be controversial. I have the rights to provoke. I have the rights to offend people's religious feelings."

Of course she has! NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. It is part of our tradition. We have for centuries criticised christianity, ridiculed Christ, ridiculed the Church.... and we are proud of that tradition which Islam has never known and still doesn't accept without going into total hysterics and murdering people. Draw a cartoon of the 'prophet' and muslims set embassy alight, scream their heads off - as backed-up by their governments with economic sanctions. It's appalling!

Who do they think they are 'muslims' with their apartheid religion which allow stoning, slavery, female circumcision, war, child marriages....? It's about time muslims have a good look at Islam - and start criticizing themselves. Butno they don't because 'Allah' says that: 'stoning is a just punishment for adultery', as is 'cutting-off hands' - and these gruesome laws can therefore not be removed!

"You won't beat terror with tolerance
Jasper Gerard meets Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Ayaan is right and any sensible muslim would understand - instead they fall into the victim roll 'me I'm a good muslim'- but they don't protest EN MASSE against those muslim jihadists, and even applaud Bin Laden - millions of them within that 'race' apart Islam!

"You pretend it's fine, you laugh about Londonistan, but you have all these terrorist who don't accept basic Britsh values. And you don't really talk aboutit."

She is right! London/England is poisoned by men in jellabah's, women in burka's WHO DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN BRITISH CULTURE and some 13% are radical muslims. ENGELAND? whole cities, streets dominated by M.E and Pakistan culture? Don't make me laugh. England is gone - thanks to immigration.

"I think it is why Europe is going down the drain. The United States seems more comfortable with competing ideas."

I don't know which country you are writing from but Europe is indeed 'going down the drain' because we have been too lenient towards immigrants - especially the Islam who insults us every day with non-European gear and flagrant religion display and demands.

One example: this week a group of muslims had arranged a meeting with a city councillor in Amsterdam and - in the middle of the meeting they insisted they had to pray - so they all did in the meeting room - nose on the floor.

You call that 'respect and tolerance' from their part? It's bloody insulting! Muslims are ASKING for trouble! If you preach and insist on Apartheid - you get it!

"Why would she want to stoke dangerous fires?"

Oh, so you admit that Islam is dangerous!

"....that she only cared about her own interest and wanting to move on with her life leaving behind more chaos and confusion.

Obviously you have no idea what Ayaan went through: death threats, having to flee and hide, having to have protection, having been thrown out of her house because the neighbours were afrain, having been publicly humiliated'

I'd run a million miles away from Holland in 'my own interest'!

"The $18.000 euro she received from Theo v Gogh for submission which led to his beheading in 2004."

Watch your words madam! HOW DARE YOU ACUSE AYAAN! Theo van Gogh regularly accused and laughed at Islam way before 'Submission' and had been threathen with death before. However, Theo said: 'if I can't say what I want to say (including 'Submission!) than I no longer 'recognise my Holland'. CHAMPION OF FREE SPEECH who paid for it with his life because of that backward Islam.

"Hirsi Ali is selling books and giving speeches in the USA. Indeed moving on with her life while we have to remember Pim Fortuyn and Theo v Gogh who were once among us."

Ayaan was indeed lucky to escape the wrath of 'Allah'!

"The government didn't have money to offer Pim Fortuyn protection but they do however use every means at their disposal to protect Hirsi Ali."

Conclusion - they had learned a lesson!

"Pim Fortuyn before his assassination made it loud and clear that some lives are worth more than others. Something that nobody wanted to hear."

????????????

"One more thing Hirsi was clearly an economic refugee who was instructed to come to the Netherlands"

Instructed by whom?

"At the same time she arrived in the Netherlands in 1992 the violence against my person took a brutal turn courtesy of the same PVDA in Amsterdam that she worked for. When I challenged their multi-cultural apartheid games I was intimidated and threatened that my life would never be safe in the Netherlands if I did not accept the violence against my person and remain silent. Nora Salomon told me straight to my face that women in my position as a mother had no choice. According to her former socialist cohorts individuality and freedom of choice were only for the educated and feminist. I have a whole list of names all PVDArats regarding my case from Amsterdam to Den-Haag. And the story's not over untill it's over!

"What the hell are you talking about? You LIVE live in Holland? Why don't you write in Dutch?

[Geplaatst door: Roelof_]

@Annabeth
Ik heb vaker postings van je gelezen. Ik ben het vaak met je eens, rationeel gesproken.
De manier waarop je communiceert spreekt me echter minder aan. Je doopt je pen in vitriool, en iedereen die het niet met je eens bent (of gewoon moslim is) krijgt er van langs. Ik vind het jammer, want ik denk dat je met jouw kennis/inzichten meer kunt bereiken als je wat minder heftig van leer trekt. Je geeft je opponenten niet de gelegenheid hun mening in jouw richting bij te stellen. Het is alles of niets. Gemiste kans, imho.

@Lisette
Thanks again for your elaborate reply.
Fortunately, Annabeth has replied for me.
I generally agree with what she says. A few additional notes from me:

"Fact: Volkert van der Graaf admitted that he killed Pim Fortuyn to protect the innocent muslims/minorities in the Netherlands.""

True, but in the book Eco Nostra (see
http://www.petersiebelt.nl/boeken.htm) page 33 Siebelt argues that Volkert's lawyers advised him to come up with this reason for murdering Fortuyn. Had he confessed it had to do with animal righs, it would be a blow for the animal rights movement.

"The $18.000 euro she received from Theo v Gogh for submission which led to his beheading in 2004."
Van Gogh was not beheaded. He was butchered, but not beheaded.

Lisette, your quotes of Ayaan are very recent. Most of the interviews were made right after she was more or less kicked out of the country and shut up.
Indeed she does not think highly of Verdonk, who stabbed her in the back.
Indeed the fact that she was succesfully demonized in the Netherlands, not only by muslims (blind hate, sometimes mixed with blatant racism), but also by left wing intellectuals (Oh Ayaan is a very interesting woman, although I don't agree with what she says ... - and of course the never said what they disagreed on or why, except that "she polarizes" or "she hurts people's feelings") increased her determination to pursue her goals.

Lisette, all the best for you. Although I read only parts of you personal history, it sounds interesting. Maybe you should write a book or an article about it. From what I read however, I think your case is very different from AHA's saga.

[Geplaatst door: Lisette]

@Roelof,

I read the Eco-Nostra so I rest to say I agree to disagree about AHA. Time will tell what its all about.

The other poster like so many women in the Netherlands are not worth my time....(sic). Feminism is a B...and I have much more class than that!!.....Smile

[Geplaatst door: Lisette]

The lawyer who is representing the Pim Fortuyn and Theo v Gogh killers also represented Hirsi Ali in her asylum fraud case....how funny is that???

Like the saying goes birds of a feather always flock together.

Eco-Terrorist
Islamic-Fundamentalist
Left-wing extremist
Gender-Feminist
Anarchist
Anti religion-Atheist
Marxist-Socialist
Multi-Culturalist
Twisted-progessive-liberals-democrats
What more is their to say they are one and the same. They all use the same tactics in different ways to intimidate, kill and destroy everybody who doesn't follow their perverted way of thought...but they divert attention away from themselves by pointing the finger at others. It is their way or no way at all!!

[Geplaatst door: annabeth]

@ Lisette

I do find it 'worth replying'to you to say that I loath you for accusing a woman like Ayaan of being an accomplish in the murder of Theo van Gogh; and who dares to derride Dutch women generally! It makes me glad that the Dutch are giving you hard time - you deserve it Bitch!

Get out of my country you don't deserve it!

[Geplaatst door: CC]

@Annabeth,

Niet gaan schelden op Lisette, okay? Daarmee verlaag je alleen jezelf.

[Geplaatst door: Lisette]

Now my dear annabeth you proved me right. I am derriding Dutch women in general?? take a look in the mirror baby before pointing the finger at me. FYI, I used my intelligence to get out of your country exactly because of feminist-gender-extremists like you and your cohorts who trample the rights and liberties of women/mothers who happen to be Dutch citizens by birth and not by fraud like Ayaan Hirsi Ali whom you worship!

Feminism is the BEAST that is undermining the West and you are your own worst enemy....face the truth because the truth and nothing but the truth will set you free!

E Pluribus Unum

[Geplaatst door: annabeth]

@ Lisette

How extraordinary an self-proclaimed 'intelligent'woman left the country because of "feminist-gender-extremists"

hahahaha ....what a joke - you've made my day! hahahahaha.....

This then falls into a new category of asylum seekers: 'women who have to flee a country as they were totally traumatised by their treatment at the hands of extreme feminists.'

hahahahaha! Try the lunatic asylum - you'll be most welcome there.

"like you and your cohorts who trample the rights and liberties of women/mothers who happen to be Dutch citizens by birth..."

And which of their 'rights', poor things, have been 'trampled on'?

"Feminism is the BEAST that is undermining the West and you are your own worst enemy....face the truth because the truth and nothing but the truth will set you free!"

Wauw - a new 'prophet'!

[Geplaatst door: Lisette]

@ annabeth

Yes, self proclaimed. I don’t need feminist-gender-extremists like you to validate me as worthy of being. Since you can not rebut my arguments you resort to the old Marxist-Leninist tactic of censorship through ridicule and character assassination. I have to try the lunatic asylum? I heard that before, but as time is on my side the whole world can now see who the real lunatics are. I am still of sound mind and don’t have to scramble to do damage control in order to save face.

Blinded by your arrogance and believe that you are the most superior you have to refer to others as ‘poor things’ instead of human beings. There you have it, their fundamental human rights are being violated by your arrogance and twisted believe in your own superiority, depriving them of their freedom of choice and demanding that they follow the perverted trends of the gender feminist Gestapo. Intimidating them into subservience and holding them hostage in the multicultural-apartheid gulag as slaves of the State.

I am not claiming to be a prophet; I just know who I am. I am that I am and not what feminist gender extremists like you and your cohorts want me to be: the stereotypical ‘poor thing’ victim that they can use to further their political agenda as it is with the case of Hirsi Ali.

E Pluribus Unum

[Geplaatst door: k]

Lisette Muntslag, ook wel te Googlen als Vrijestem of Freevoice, is weer bezig. Muntslag die alelrlei hoge politici van sexuele intimidatie heeft beticht, omdat ze haar zin niet kreeg. Nu woont ze al jaren illegaal in Amerika, ze kan namelijk niet terug vanwege alle leugens. Ze is nl. strafbaar bezig. Zowat heel politiek Amsterdam en Den Haag kent het verhaal.

Wat leuke bloemlezingen van Lisette, die overigens ook op de site van Fortuyn is geblokkeerd:

http://www.indischebuurt.nl/index.php/weblog/comments/interview-met-jan-beerenhout-op-radio-1/
http://www.suriname.nl/discus/messages/4941/7726.html?1114527107
http://www.suriname.nl/discus/messages/4941/7688.html

Mevrouw is kunstenares maar kaapt eenvoudige baantjes weg voor de neus van werkloze Amerikanen en strijkt zo alle voordeeltjes op. Voert zelfs campagne voor Bush, onze favoriete president (NOT!), maar is uiteindelijk de officiele campagne uitgemikt omdat ze illegaal is. Is ook weggehaald bij Dick Cheney die ze wilde lastigvallen met haar verhalen, maar dat doet haar niet zo veel. Ze bestookt de hele Bush-administratie met haar brieven en denkt dat het haar een legale status zal opleveren.

[Geplaatst door: Lisette]

The twisted Rats can't have it that I talk the talk and walk the walk...I am loving it. I thought Mission Impossible would be available but as always the braggers can't cut it...envy is a pisser...LOL!!!!

I am kickin it live on earth and don't need hand-outs or people to help me find my way in the United States. The foreign affairs expert......is ook nergens meer op het net te vinden. But freevoice, Vrijestem, Lisette Muntslag RULES!!!!!

Vermin..go back to your hole....

[Geplaatst door: Lisette]

Ik ben gelukkig geen verknipte feminist die zo graag man wil zijn. I love being a woman and I enjoy my femininity!!!

[Geplaatst door: Lisette]

For the Hirsi Ali worshippers who would like to assasinate me for having an opinion regarding this mass hysteria.....

http://www.pipelinenews.org/index.cfm?page=ali52206%2Ehtm

http://www.newstatesman.com/200607240051

The poster k...is Monica de Bruijn foreign affairs specialist and journalist who is so frustrated with her life in the Netherlands but doesn't have the guts to leave, projecting her frustrations on me because I dared!!!

[Geplaatst door: arend]

@Lisette,

Het intereesseert me echt niet wie jij bent en wie 'k' is.
Wat mij interesseert is wat iemand te zeggen heeft.

Je komt met een hoop beschuldigingen richting feminisme, waar je er geen 1 van kunt bewijzen.
Nu ben ik zelf geen feminist, maar ik vind dat beschuldigingen (aan wie dan ook) altijd een kern van waarheid moeten bevatten.
Jij denkt daar dus anders over, dat neemt niet weg dat men in de 'grote-mensen-wereld' vaak wat critischer is.

Ook je beschuldigingen naar Hirsi Ali raken kant noch wal.
Toon af en toe gewoon iets aan, dat praat gewoon wat makkelijker.

[Geplaatst door: Abdel]

@ Arend,

Je wordt aardig vervelend met dat eeuwige riedeltje van je om dingen aan te tonen. Ongeacht welke argumenten iemand aanvoert, het zal in jouw optiek nooit genoeg zijn.

De tijd heeft in ultieme zin aangetoond wat de waarde is geweest van AHA voor de Nederlandse politiek en samenleving:0,0000. Via de achterdeur heeft zij zoals door mij maanden geleden al is voorspeld op dit log het podium verlaten.
Onnodig anderen uit te dagen om met bewijzen te komen voor hun kritische standpunten m.b.t. AHA... al is de leugen nog zo snel....

Acta est fabula!!

[Geplaatst door: Lisette]

@arend,

Jou wat tonen of bewijzen hoeft ik niet en doe ik ook niet in opdracht omdat jij het blijkbaar niet kan bevatten. Mijn ervaringen met de barbariteiten van de moederhaters in Amsterdam liegen er niet om, daar kan ik gewoon een boek mee vol maken en met tastbaar bewijs. inclusief brieven van Bea jou majesteit. Mijn mening over feministen en Hirsi Ali blijft recht overeind. Hirsi Ali became a citizen by fraud and deception but I am a citizen by birth!

Ga maar navraag doen de PVDA Wiarda Beckman stichting about their crimes against humanity.

Nora Salomon Ombudsman Amsterdam
Bernadette de Wit Journaliste
Ada Wildekamp voormalig Wethouder
Hedy' D'ancona oud Minister WVC
Jan 'muslim feminist' Beerenhout.

Kortom allemaal ratten en PVDA mens en maatschappijvernietigers in Amsterdam, die weten waar ik het over heb.

De PVDA kan stil blijven over de zaak Lisette Muntslag, maar Lisette Muntslag zal blijven praten over de mens en maatschappijvernietigers van de PVDA.

[Geplaatst door: arend]

@Abdel,

Voor mensen die niks aan kunnen tonen is zo'n terugkerend riedeltje inderdaad vervelend.
Als ik net als jou zou geloven in '1+1=3', dan zou ik óók een hekel aan wiskunde hebben.

Aan de andere kant, als jij ooit een opleiding wilt gaan volgen kan het geen kwaad om alvast te leren redeneren.
Zelf nadenken over wat je beweert, ook al gaat dat in tegen je principes.

- Je noemde mij meermaals (achter mijn rug om) een leugenaar, maar gaf nooit een voorbeeld van een leugen van mijn hand.
- Je noemde mij meermaals xenofoob etc, maar kon daar nooit een voorbeeld van geven.

Het enige dat je hebt aangetoond is dat je niet zo zeer te dom bent om zelf te denken (een komodovaraan zou mijn point ondertussen toch wel begrepen hebben), maar dat je gewoon WEIGERT om zelf te denken.
Of dat nu is vanwege je geloof of vanwege je luiheid laat ik in het midden.

Je noemde Ayaan een 'fundamentalistisch despoot', maar je kon geen fundamentalistisch-despotische ideeën van Ayaan presenteren; je hebt immers nooit iets van ayaan gelezen.
Het enige dat je van ayaan weet, is dat napraters haar haten, en dat doe jij dus ook.

Jij riep ooit dat het vreedzaam verzet tegen misstanden van Ayaan net zo gevaarlijk is als gewelddadig verzet tegen mensenrechten (Al-zarqawi).
'Hetzelfde spectrum van het kwaad' zei je toen, al heb ik je dan toevallig nooit op een kwaad woord over Al-zarqawi betrapt; die denkt immers niet zelf.
En dus kunnen zijn acties in jouw ogen wèl door de beugel.

Je hebt wel gelijk dat Ayaan flink is tegengewerkt, maar maakt dat haar standpunten (die jij natuurlijk niet kent) minder waard?
Mandela is ook flink tegengewerkt.
Reageer eens inhoudelijk op wat Ayaan zegt, of geloof je echt dat er een allah bestaat die je daarvoor gaat straffen na je dood?

En zelfs als Ayaan net zo achterlijk als Wouter Bos zou zijn, betekent dat dan dat ze bedreigd moet worden?
Jij kwam bijna klaar op het bericht dat ze (vanwege die bedreigingen) niet in haar eigen huis mocht wonen.

Jij voorspelde dat de hetze tegen Ayaan tot haar aftocht zou leiden, maar ondertussen gaat Ayaan er op vooruit en jij niet.
Bovendien heb je nog niet 1 keer aangetoond dat de argumenten van Ayaan niet deugen.

[Geplaatst door: arend]

@Lisette,

Je bent mij niks verschuldigd, maar als je iets roept moet je dat aantonen. Dat doe je nooit.
Dat heeft niks met 'bevatten' te maken.

Als ik jou een 'pyromaan' zou noemen, zullen mensen mij ook vragen of ik dat aan kan tonen.
Alleen daarom al zal ik dat niet roepen, ik kan het immers niet aantonen.
Als jij iets over Ayaan, PvdA, Bernadette de Wit of feminisme roept moet je dat gewoon ook hard kunnen maken; je bent toch geen abdel?

[Geplaatst door: Theo]

@Abdel

Je hebt wel oogkleppen op als je niet kunt erkennen dat mevrouw Hirsi Ali zeer veel voor dit land en de rest van de wereld heeft gedaan. Bij vele mensen zijn door haar de ogen geopend voor de verderfelijke invloed van de Islam op mensheid en wereld.

Dat jij zegt dat zij 0,0000 voor ons gedaan heeft zegt iets over de geweldig afsluitende kwaliteit van jouw oog- en oorkleppen.

Veel sterke toegewenst met je slavenbestaan op aarde en je dromerige luchtspiegelingen van het "paradijs".

[Geplaatst door: Peter van Dam]

@Theo Je zegt dat "...mevrouw Hirsi Ali zeer veel voor dit land en de rest van de wereld heeft gedaan...." namelijk "Bij vele mensen zijn door haar de ogen geopend voor de verderfelijke invloed van de Islam op mensheid en wereld".

Sorry hoor maar mevrouw heeft maar één doel: zichzelf. Net een Gonny van Oudenallen maar dan iets slimmer. Op het juiste moment ingestapt, gelogen, geswitched van partij toen dat haar beter uitkwam, meegelift op de status van een twee doden en net voordat bleek dat zij ook niet weet hoe nu het nu verder moet als een bange rat het schip verlaten.

Zijn we door deze mevrouw één stap dichter bij een oplossing hoe in Nederland vreedzaam samen te leven met verschillende bevolkingsgroepen en religieuze overtuigingen? Nee dus, ze heeft alleen voor polarisatie gezorgd. Meer kan ze ook niet.

[Geplaatst door: arend]

@van Dam,

Wel wel, wat een wijsheid, hoe kom je daar aan?

Want zo te horen heb je nog nooit iets van Ayaan gelezen
Bovendien weet je helemaal niks af van de Nederlandse geschiedenis, waar kritiek op de kerk al honderden jaren legaal is.
Alleen Ayaan moet haar mond houden, omdat veel moslims kritiek op eerwraak en besnijdenis 'polariserend' vinden.

Wat zou er nou ècht polariserend werken; bomaanslagen in 30 landen, een rituele moord op een columnist, tientallen bedreigingen, relatief hoge criminaliteitscijfers onder aanhangers van een middeleeuwse struikrover, oproepen tot geweld tegen joden, homo's, vrouwen, ongelovigen?
Of polariseert de boel vooral door mensen die tegen het bovenstaande waarschuwen?

Kom alsjeblieft terug naar de aarde voor je verder oordeelt.

[Geplaatst door:]

dixit van damme: ".......één stap dichter bij een oplossing hoe in Nederland vreedzaam samen te leven met verschillende bevolkingsgroepen en religieuze overtuigingen? ..."
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Eén stap dichterbij?
Uiteraard niet!
Vreedzaam samenleven met de kalashnikovs is onmogelijk!
Een bende achtergebleven achterlijken.
Enkel dhimmi samenleven.
Dat ziet zelfs een blinde!
Multicul is een desillusie!
Ruk het onkruid uit, met wortel en al!

[Geplaatst door: E605]

dixit van damme: ".......één stap dichter bij een oplossing hoe in Nederland vreedzaam samen te leven met verschillende bevolkingsgroepen en religieuze overtuigingen? ..."
======================================
Eén stap dichterbij?
Uiteraard niet!
Vreedzaam samenleven met de kalashnikovs is onmogelijk!
Een bende achtergebleven achterlijken.
Enkel dhimmi samenleven.
Dat ziet zelfs een blinde!
Multicul is een desillusie!
Ruk het onkruid uit, met wortel en al!